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A11Eur0 · Apr 24, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

So PvP'ers have an easier time getting PvE storage rewards. Goodness. Who ever thought that would ever make sense.

Wait...

Halimahdance · Apr 24, 2009, 03:24 AM // 03:24

My only complaint with the 2.5K is that the GuildWars site said "for a nominal fee of gold at various merchants across all campaigns". Nominal is usually defined as slight, or very small compared to usual expectations. A couple hundred gold would have been fine.

Yawgmoth · Apr 24, 2009, 07:34 AM // 07:34

2.5k is cheap, I'd pay much more for things like this. I value 1 inventory slot at around ~5k gold - and I'd pay that if it was possible to buy slots for gold (100k per pane).

superraptors · Apr 24, 2009, 08:53 AM // 08:53

in game money aint a problem for me i dont know why people think 2.5k is expensive, i would pay 100 plat or 1000 plat if it was possible, anything but real money

people who think 2.5k is expensive it can be made in 2 runs of raptor farm which is like 3 minutes

thig · Apr 24, 2009, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Yeah the zcoin costs for the bags are crazy, but the gold ammount for the small bag are acceptable.

Pleikki · Apr 24, 2009, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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10, 15, and 20-slot bags are available in exchange for Zaishen Coins at a Zaishen Rewards NPC in Great Temple of Balthazar.

Just go farm coins and get em free

T1Cybernetic · Apr 24, 2009, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Wow it is going to take another lifetime to get those 20 slot bags

is there not a faster way?

Imaginos · Apr 24, 2009, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

Just go farm coins and get em free

7500 copper coins for a 20 slot bag.

50ish coins per HM Mission run once per 24 hours = 150 days of running a HM mission every day to get a single 20 slot bag......yeah

leoknight · Apr 24, 2009, 10:33 AM // 10:33

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

Wow it is going to take another lifetime to get those 20 slot bags

is there not a faster way?

Yeah, I'll say, the only somewhat reasonable to get is the light equipment pack (10 slot) which require 1 Zaishen gold coin (500 Z-copper coin). Obviously either it will takes an awful amount of time to get 20 equipment pack or someone with no life which probably get one in next 2-3 days.

zwei2stein · Apr 24, 2009, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by leoknight

Yeah, I'll say, the only somewhat reasonable to get is the light equipment pack (10 slot) which require 1 Zaishen gold coin (500 Z-copper coin).

Much easier to get, true, but not and option really. Here is problem:

Why essentially "waste" 1 gold going on pack that you are gonna trade in for 15/20 slot pack in future (if you have use for equipment pack, of course). Ditto with 5 gold coins for 15 slot bag.

I wonder, are bags tradeable between accounts? It should take about month for them to appear on market...

Bill Clinton · Apr 24, 2009, 11:07 AM // 11:07

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I wonder, are bags tradeable between accounts? It should take about month for them to appear on market...

This is a good point.
Honeslty, I hope they are tradeable. Doing this it opens up more options for players who want the 20 slot bag and also opens up options for people who want to make a lot of money.

Fril Estelin · Apr 24, 2009, 11:08 AM // 11:08

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I wonder, are bags tradeable between accounts? It should take about month for them to appear on market...

Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?

zwei2stein · Apr 24, 2009, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?

I would assume that people who go into bag-selling business would also get some for their own use first (however, they might want to sell their first ones to get advantage of market).

And besides, Procuring 30+ characters that are HM ready and able to port to any mission/outpost is quite big task.

glacialphoenix · Apr 24, 2009, 11:21 AM // 11:21

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50ish coins per HM Mission run once per 24 hours = 150 days of running a HM mission every day to get a single 20 slot bag......yeah

There's also the bounty quests, actually, and those who PvP will also probably do the PvP challenge. You're thinking in terms of slowest possible rate, and you're not factoring in the fact that the zoins are supposed to be tradable within your account. It will still be a grind, yes, but it's not going to be nearly as long as you think for some people. =\ Even if you don't like one bounty, there'll be a new one the next day.

The Meth · Apr 24, 2009, 11:56 AM // 11:56

Considering that its pure storage just for weapons and armor, 5 is more then enough for most characters. You probably wont have multiple sets of armor on the character you created just yesterday or anything. The best equipment packs are also buyable from other players.

Tullzinski · Apr 24, 2009, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?

If your brain does not melt from doing the same quest over and over and over

raptors and kegs is bad enough during event weekends

Red-Tide · Apr 24, 2009, 01:58 PM // 13:58

ugh, now I have to grind for days on end to get the extra storage? I just finished 6 months of uber grind getting my Vanquisher title. I am so done with grind.

Imaginos · Apr 24, 2009, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Well, possibly much less. 150 days for one char, but you can move zoins between chars, max 35 chars, so 5 days?

so run the mission 35 times, once on each character, assuming that they have the area that is chosen as the quest for that day (example today's blood washes blood, don't have eotn, then tough you lose). At a minimum of 1 hour to just run around and do the quest you'd need 35 hours in the day so that isn't going to happen. Even if you could do the quests every day in 30 min you'd still need 17 and a half hours of uninterrupted play every single day for a week. Also not likely.

10 slot bag = 1 gold = 500 copper = 10 days (1.5 weeks roughly)
15 slot bag = 5 gold = 2,500 copper = 50 days (1.75 months roughly)
20 slot bag = 15 gold = 7,500 copper = 150 days (5 months roughly)

the above is assuming 50ish copper per day for 1 mission in HM (20 in NM and +50 bonus in HM was todays)

1 hour per mission (rough again as some will do it faster, others will do it slower). Perhaps you could get 4 missions done a night if you did nothing else netting you 200 coins. That would cut down the time to get one bag by 4 of course.

200 coins a day @ 4 hours of "Farming Missions" as fast as you can:

10 slot bag = 2.5 days
15 slot bag = 12.5 days (2 weeks roughly)
20 slot bag = 37.5 days (1 month roughly)

For a casual player that means doing nothing else for over a month but spend 4 hours every day farming missions for coins....including your weekends. Miss a night due to work/school/whatever? Add those days onto your total. Can only play on weekends? Good luck in getting a 20 slot before 2010 hehehe.

edited for a bit more clarity

Imaginos · Apr 24, 2009, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

There's also the bounty quests, actually, and those who PvP will also probably do the PvP challenge. You're thinking in terms of slowest possible rate, and you're not factoring in the fact that the zoins are supposed to be tradable within your account. It will still be a grind, yes, but it's not going to be nearly as long as you think for some people. =\ Even if you don't like one bounty, there'll be a new one the next day.

That is of course very true as long as the bounties are not all Elite areas, which not everyone has access to or wants to go to. If for instance a bounty was on Byzzr Wingmender I'd say that one would be a shoe in...probably wouldn't be worth many points but would only take someone with factions done (kurzik side) a mere 4 min to do.

They're an uncounted factor till we see what they are over a week as a very small sample rate.

Imaginos · Apr 24, 2009, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by The Meth

Considering that its pure storage just for weapons and armor, 5 is more then enough for most characters. You probably wont have multiple sets of armor on the character you created just yesterday or anything. The best equipment packs are also buyable from other players.

I have to disagree there. Most every character I have has at least 2 sets of armor for specific occasions, some for looks and at least half a dozen weapons again for specific builds and things. I can easily use 20 slots on most of these characters.